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Post by Mairi on Jan 5, 2005 20:47:53 GMT -5
Some Therianthropes consider themselves to be a distinct group from Otherkin. Likewise, many vampire communities will say that they are open to Otherkin joining, though they themselves are not Otherkin. And other communities will tell you that they are open to Otherkin as well...and usually define Otherkin as including "werecreatures or vampires."
Otherkin seems to be favored as the generic term, yet I tend to feel that this generic term is derogatory. And when it’s used to describe myself or someone else I feel as though I am being cast off and branded unacceptable because I don’t fit into a certain mold.
I'm interested in finding out what others think about this. Is Therianthropy a sub-group of Otherkin? If not, since there is a lot of overlap, where would you draw a distinction? Are generic terms respectful, or is it better to be known as cougar, wolf, and Angelkin instead of one large group?
Mairi
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Post by WingedWolfPsion on Jan 11, 2005 2:38:27 GMT -5
Therians ARE otherkin.
The definition of otherkin is people who feel they are other than human...that's what makes someone 'kin. Therians feel they are other than human, therefore they are otherkin.
The problem, if you can call it that, arose because the 3 communities evolved seperately up until quite recently.
Prior to the internet, there's ample evidence of vampires forming groups and communicating with one another about vampirism. There's some evidence to suggest that elves did this as well...not so for therians, alas.
With the advent of the internet, the therian community was first established through discussions on a Usenet Newsgroup called alt.horror.werewolves. Therian discussions first lay side by side with werewolf fiction discussions, but eventually eclipsed them completely, resulting in a re-writing of the newgroup's charter to reflect the new topic discussion.
Meanwhile, the vampire community vigorously bounded from the slow pen-pal networks of the past into modern chats and forums, forming more and larger organizations, and later Houses.
The otherkin community came together online as well, a bit more slowly and haphazardly. Let's face it...vamps need one another far more than any other 'kin type. At that point in time, the 3 communities were seperate, and in fact the majority of them did not know about one another.
Now, the Otherkin and Therians were bound to run across one another. Folks would turn up in the were group who had a dragon, or even more exotic phenotype...they were ambivalently accepted. Animal-kin turned up on Otherkin forums and such. It didn't take too tremendously long for the overlap to bring folks from these communities together, and it seemed clear that therians were a type of otherkin...just otherkin who had a kin-type that happened to be a known Earth animal. No big deal. Overlap with the vampire community was a bit slower...in fact, there are still a LOT of vamps who do not know what Otherkin are, and have no idea that there are "real werewolves". I personally suspect that the vampire community has far greater numbers than the otherkin community...even with therians included.
I've never been entirely certain why the vampire community was incorporated into the Otherkin community, save for one thing...vampires are intensely social, and otherkin are very accepting of folks who are different from the human norm. Most vampires do not feel they are other than human. However....perhaps it is that vampires are far more different from ordinary humans than most 'kin are, so whether they feel that way or not...they ARE other?
I see no reason to reject this over-community of otherkin. I'd much rather spend my time with 'kin, even if they are not of my kin-type. I don't feel any particular need to snub dragonkin as being "not like me" just because I am a therian. I'd still rather hang out with vampires than I would with folks who wouldn't have any prayer of understanding or accepting that my occasional odd behavior is an integral part of who and what I am.
I'm proud to consider myself part of the Otherkin community, and I don't see any point in trying to seperate folks out into smaller categories, or to eliminate the entire idea that we, even though we have differences, also have a lot in common.
So, I'm in favor of one large group. Subdivisions have some value, sure, but the strength of the otherkin community presented as a single front is something I feel could only be a positive development.
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Post by liger18 on May 8, 2008 6:54:05 GMT -5
I agree whole heartedly. Some may consider otherkin to be apart from therians, dragonkin, etc. But all in all, all of those are under the name therian or dragonkin or whatever. Otherkin is the "highest group" you may say. we are all otherkin, no matter what others say. that's what i believe we are. all joined by one belief, we're not human inside.
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Post by lyoness on Jun 25, 2008 4:30:38 GMT -5
Therians are NOT other kin. An those that consider themselvs half animal are not Therians but in fact are other kin.
The word Therian defines as such: Those who pratice animal worship: example - shamens, and various other pagans.
Some otherkin can be considered part of the Therians group on account they do roughtly worship the animal they are connected to. But many do not, they simply claime they are a shifter type person, be it physically or mentally.
Unfortunitly over time the word has twisted to include those that consider themseves were-whatever, on account that many couldn't find a real group to put themsleves with. Therian was the closest thing many could discribe themsleves as. Though I do belive now that Otherkin has come around...those were-whatevers not fit more defently with them than with the Therian group...unless they still do worship animal spirits, there's and others.
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Post by zygopterix on Sept 25, 2009 16:26:54 GMT -5
If you research the term Therianthrope it actually means the same thing as Were animal Both terms mean Man and animal combined. There is no difference except in the predjudicial or elitist mind that chooses to seperate the terms. We are all energy beings inside a human body and are all therefore "Kin" by relation
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Post by Arethinn aTinderel on Oct 1, 2009 13:14:17 GMT -5
Therians are NOT other kin. An those that consider themselvs half animal are not Therians but in fact are other kin. The word Therian defines as such: Those who pratice animal worship: example - shamens, and various other pagans. Um... what? "Therianthrope" means "beast-man": therion = wild animal or beast and anthropos = human. It can be thought of as a more generic class term similar to "lycanthrope", a wolf-man. Where are you getting the definition you are referring to here?
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Post by sydneyselfridge on Oct 7, 2009 9:48:50 GMT -5
I am of the mind that you can call me anything you want, just don't call me late for supper. The important thing to me is, I know who and what I am. I dont need to be labeled or fit into a group. I also feel that I am accepting of everyone, no matter how they feel they need to label themselves, and that we can learn and grow from each other and our experiences. Knowledge is power, never forget that.
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Post by swampiebartender on May 10, 2010 0:49:39 GMT -5
to me, anyone that isn't totally human is other/kin. a general term that sets us apart from human. sounds alot better then non/human lol
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Post by someavi on Oct 28, 2010 12:39:48 GMT -5
I'm not so sure how well Vampires fit into this group as we normally call the vampire part "the beast" This is separate from you that causes much conflict. Separate from me it speaks back with emotions and ideas strong enough there is no mistaking it's intentions.
Although it's a part of me there is a separation that makes me wonder jest how well we fit into Otherkin. I still feel human most of the time unless my thoughts shift. (pretty !@$# hard to explain right) like having a personality disorder or something? *shrugs*
I guess we can fit into that group. I'd like to point out it's the fact we have a need that drives us to wards other people. That and awakening has people doing all sorts of strange things to figure themselves out.
Other than that we tend to drift away and fight with each other to much. (Houses ha a role players dream the lot of them.) We need a bit of distance when ever the beast pops up any were.
We can be Otherkin I guess but I don't think it's a perfect fit.
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Post by swampiebartender on Dec 30, 2010 22:56:07 GMT -5
there is the slang term kin that humans call family. kinfolk ... i would say that the term other/kin i think, is a nice way to describe anyone who doesn't think their 100% human. the tern other/kin to me means that we are all apart of the family of those that don't feel we are 100% human be we therian, vampire, dragon. shape shifter, whatever you feel that you are.embrace it and don't feel that it's a put down because it isn't a put down at all it's just simply a way of reconizing those of us that are a different family other then fully human. i am therian. i am other/kin. you are my kin. i think also that deep down in every vampire there is a part of them that isn't fully human if they would be honest with themselves and i don't think there's any put down to vampires by saying that i just truly feel that to be true. and yes i do need a little distance when the wolf comes out wolves are not very trusting of humans and why should we be? humans are the only species that kill for sport. humans are cruel and ill tempered they shoot wolves for the fun of it . i resent that immensely wolfess comes out immediately if human gets in my face they learn not to do that real fast yes distanceis a good thing. i consider myself other/kin because i am not fully of the species that calls themselves human.
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Post by Mairi on Jan 30, 2011 11:18:40 GMT -5
I prefer Kin to describe the group as a whole rather than OtherKin.
We are after all a family since many of us share traits.
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